LCNB

[Dutch]

Ellis, may I ask a few questions about your new system LCNB?

Is this a work in progress or is it complete?

Have you tested it over the Zumma 600 mini bacc tester book and if so what  were your results?  If not how many shoes have you tested it over and what were your final results?

How difficult (or easy) is to to learn & Play?

If I purchase this now for 1000 is the system (LCNB) posted on the baccarat private board so I can begin learning it right away?

The price is 750 for the manual plus another 250 for access to all the forums and online support for one year.  Is that correct?  Also is the access to all the forums just a one time charge or a yearly charge?

Dennis

 

[Ellis Davis]

Sorry for the delay in responding to your excellent questions Dennis. One of the guys alerted me to your post. I should spend more time on the public forum…

Let’s take them one at a time:

 

Is LCNB a work in progress or is it complete?

It is complete Dennis. The final rules and sample games have been posted on the private forum for some time now and private members are already doing very well in the casinos and posting their results. This does not mean that we don’t look at ideas players have but I contemplate no changes in the official rules. Btw, this project began more than a year ago. It took several attempts to get it just right. But the design stage is long over with now.

We are not sure yet whether to make the stop loss -5 or -6 but computer testing will give us the optimum answer soon.

 

Have you tested it over the Zumma 600 mini bacc tester book and if so what  were your results?  If not how many shoes have you tested it over and what were your final results?

I’ve known that boy for about 25 years but I don’t think Zumma is the best source because he doesn’t differentiate between regular vs factory preshuffled cards. I like to know what I’m testing against because there can be a significant difference. We have our own casino shoes from our own players. We have 10,000 but I’ve never seen test results change after the first 2000 shoes. In fact, they usually don’t change much after 40 well assorted shoes.

We aren’t splitting hairs here. Testers are usually looking at fractional PAs and results are within the margin of error and therefore meaningless. From what I’ve seen thus far, I think we are looking at something above 5% PA or about ten times what card counting can generate. 

My in house tester, Aegis 21, is tied up at the moment. He recently adopted a teenage daughter! Otherwise testing would be completed. So I had to go to an outside tester. This takes longer because first we’ve got to get them playing the system exactly right. I never had that problem with Aegis. But I’m guessing we should have verified results within a month and I’ll keep you posted. 

These are more for your benefit than mine. I already have a good idea how they will turn out. But I need solid independent proof for YOUR benefit.

 

How difficult (or easy) is to to learn & Play?

Hmm, a lot of that is in the eye of the beholder, but I would put it about the same difficulty as OTB4L. Some get it perfect their first reading. On a scale of 1 – 10, I would put it no more than 6. 

Basically we are combining two talents: SAP counting, which you can learn in 10 minutes together with Net betting which you can learn in another 10 minutes. From there it is a simple betting routine except when 1’s are LC. LC 1 has a special betting rule. It is only one sentence but it might take some a few tries to get it exactly right.

You sound like a sharp guy so I think you’ll be in the group that gets it right the first try. 

 

If I purchase this now for 1000 is the system (LCNB) posted on the baccarat private board so I can begin learning it right away?

Yes, of course. You could be playing it in casino in a matter of days. I strongly recommend you practice at home first until you know you’ve experienced every situation that can come up in casino and are fully confident you know every rule. In other words, be sure you can beat your kitchen table BEFORE you take on a casino table.

 

The price is 750 for the manual plus another 250 for access to all the forums and online support for one year.  Is that correct?  Also is the access to all the forums just a one time charge or a yearly charge?

Correct and Correct. However we will be coming up with incentives whereby you will be able to reduce or eliminate your annual dues if you like.

Dennis, if you think of anything else, don’t hesitate to ask.

Oh, on your question re difficulty – it occurs to me you’d rather hear from a player. I’ll see if I can get one of the guys to come over here and comment.

 

 

 

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[Dutch]

Ellis,

Thanks for your informative response.  I look forward to hearing one of your members posting about their experience.

Dennis

[aizman]

Hi Ellis,

I’m interested in signing up, but I have some questions regarding LCNB: does it work on all shoe types? Bias, non- bias, random, shuffled, pre- shuffled, etc. There’s a Resorts World near my place that I frequent, it seems they churn out all kinds of shoes. Some are consistent throughout, some changes halfway, some start w 2s, then chops, then the 3s come out. Very often when I see a tote board showing a clear trend and make a bet, it changes right away!

Does LCNB, or any other system in the manual caters for this situation? Also, must it enter at the beginning of the shoe, or can be any point?

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks!

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